BACK COUNTRY HORSEMEN OF IDAHO
STATE DIRECTORS MEETING
JULY 12, 2008 – NAMPA
Phil
Ryan, Vice-Chairman opened meeting @ 8:30 AM in absence
of Raenette Didier, President. Phil introduced Terry Allen
Hoover, who is the BCHI Legislative Liaison. His subject
matter was ‘What you need to know about influencing
legislation’. Terry said in “Expanding the
Code of Conflict”, you have to get other people and
user groups involved. Today, we have a lot of people who
are followers. We have to expand the voice of conflict
and everyone, no matter what, is an activist. We need to
improve the website to show, visually, all the work we
do. This means more photos and a chronicle of what we have
done, along with any active bills or items that affect
us. We need to band with all the other horse groups or
we will lose what we have. Terry also advised that the
most effective way to get a response from legislature is
a hand written letter, in ink or an email, as they do get
read. A second website dedicated to legislation would be
a good idea. We need to sell ourselves and educate others.
Gene
Bruce advised there is a lawsuit that the American Hiking
Society has against the Inyo National Forest in
California. A federal court in California has ruled that
commercial pack stock does not have a mandate to be in
the back country in the Inyo National Forest. That means
they have ‘no right’ to be there. The Forest
Service has not appealed this yet. Val Johnson feels this
decision may trickle down to the private user.
Sharon Bruce, Acting Secretary for Sherri Lionberger did
roll call of all chapters. Out of the 15 chapters, Cache
Peak, North Idaho, Sawtooth and Twin Rivers BCH were not
present. Sharon read the minutes of the prior meeting .
Val Johnson moved to approve the minutes as read. Terry
Steiner seconded, minutes were approved. (At this time
Raenette Didier came and took control of the meeting.)
TREASUERS
REPORT – was given by Treasurer Gretel
Kleint (see copy attached to these minutes). Raenette & Gretel
reviewed the BCHI Budget line by line to make us aware
of what our income and expenses are exactly for. It was
noted that we are still getting income from our ‘Horse
Sense’ video. We were selling them for $10.00, but
if any chapter has any of these VHS tapes left, give them
away to anyone you wish as they are getting very old. It
is a hope that this video can be transferred from VHS to
DVD in the future.
WEBSITE: Our new website is up and running. Raenette
advised that the flow of getting information onto the
website is to get it to the State Secretary, who will
then make sure it gets to the webmaster. Heartland is
now using the same webmaster, along with Panhandle. Other
chapters should do the same. The charge for set up is
$200.00 and a $20.00 monthly maintenance fee.
The calendar page needs to be utilized, which is a link
to the site. One person from your chapter needs to contact
Sherri to get the password to utilize the BCHI calendar.
Any updates will then be directed to the webmaster. The
Foundation needs to get updates to the webmaster also.
Issues are the next tab. We don’t have a lot on
it right now. If you have something that you think it
should be on there, let Raenette know. The Chairman should
review to make sure it is something that the Board is
supporting.
Should we have the BCHI minutes posted onto the website?
After discussion everyone felt we should, but not to
include the Treasurers report. Only state that the Treasurers
report was read and approved. It will be the Secretary’s
responsibility to get this information posted to the
BCHI website.
The BCHI Annual report, which is now done on CD can also
be put onto our website, eliminating copies for each chapter.
This will also be the responsibility of the Secretary.
Mary Beth Conger said that she and Dale Schrempp (Co-Education
Chairs) are working on redoing the Educational booklet
and brochure. She would like to see this on the website
too. That will happen in the near future.
Raenette said she visited with Mark Bogar and Karen Parks
regarding the Outdoor Show and they suggested that we have
a link on our website for the Outdoor Show and include
all the vendors. Mark thinks this would be a good sales
hook in asking for vendors to be a part of the Outdoor
Show. Is this something we should do? Web advertising is
big business. Do we want to do it for a $500 ad? Robin
suggested we ask the webmaster to see how many hits on
the website we get; we should be getting a report from
the webmaster on this. Barbara Z-Smith moves the vendors
and sponsors of the Outdoor Show, have a link from our
website in support of them. Norman Smith second and motion
carried.
Terry Hoover had stated about having an alert on our website
to our membership of any items of concern. Every chapter
needs an email tree and/or phone tree in getting alerts
out to everyone. Raenette encouraged chapters to at least
have your minutes/newsletter done electronically. Some
chapters do not want the internet exposure. Raenette is
going to ask in November how many chapters are forwarding
emails to your members of items of importance.
BCH OF MONTANA annual report DVD was shown and the Directors
all agree that BCHI should do the same. BCH of MT used
a production company, which two of their members own, but
they have the outline we could use and just change pictures
and whatever wording we want. Everyone agrees we should
consider doing the same.
WAYS & MEANS COMMITTEE: Phil Ryan reported on the
upcoming 2009 Calendar that will be ready in September.
66 photos were submitted and it is being put together as
he speaks. Phil & Kaye will be making a road trip and
will deliver the calendars to each chapter. If each member
sold 2.5 calendars, the 2,000 would be sold. The monthly
winners will be put on the website and their name will
be in the grand prize drawing. 10% of the sales go back
to the chapters. The calendars are $20.00 a piece. An 8
x 10 poster will be distributed so folks can see what we
have. However creative you can be, please sell them. A
calendar should be easier to sell than a raffle ticket,
plus the opportunity of winning a prize. The grand prize
is either a 4 horse trailer or ATV. We need to inform the
webmaster of the calendar information, to contact Phil
if they want some. If WY can sell 2,000, there is no reason
we can’t do the same. The calendar also will fit
in a calendar photo frame. The calendars will be individually
shrunk wrapped. A business could even put their own logo
on it. A feed business, veterinarians, etc. would be a
good place to sell them to.
A count was taken from each chapter as to how many calendars
they will commit to sell. The tally is as follows: Boise
= 25, Eagle Rock = 75, Heartland = 100, High Desert = 100,
North Central Idaho = 150, Panhandle = 200, Priest River
= 100, Salmon River = 75, Selkirk = 25, Squaw Butte = 250,
Treasure Valley = 120 and Twin Rivers = 300. This is a
commitment from the reporting chapters to sell 1,520 of
the 2,000 calendars.
OUTDOOR
SHOW REPORT: Raenette spoke to Mark Bogar of Twin Rivers
BCH and he said there is no question it takes a
lot of time to put this event on. The reason they ordered
300 calendars is because they think they can get more money
for the state on sales of calendars, vs. the Outdoor Show.
Raenette said if we can make the Outdoor Show a go, maybe
we should consider giving more than 10% of the proceeds
to Twin Rivers. The arena presentations are an expense
that takes away from our profits. Mark Bogar can’t
believe someone from BCHI can’t do a presentation,
which would help reduce expenses. We need new demonstrations
coming into the arena. Mark would like us to come back
in November with talking to your chapter and getting fellow
BCHers to do a demo of some kind.
Discussion was brought up about each chapter bring two
raffle items and one nice item for the live auction? We
need to revitalize the bucket raffle as it did not bring
in much money. We need to upgrade to quality items that
are of a $50.00 value each. That would entice people to
buy tickets and generate more money. After discussion,
it was decided that each chapter will have two bucket raffle
prizes of $50.00 each and $50.00 silent auction item. A
bucket raffle prize can be a combination of items, with
a value of $50.00 and put in a gift basket/box of some
kind.
Now
that we don’t have people tied into a half day
meeting, we need more ideas of things like the dog competition
and such. It is asked that directors to go back to their
chapters and ask for BCHers to do some kind of demo. After
discussion it was decided that we will have a Sunday BCHI
Dutch Oven cook-off and the charge will be $3.00 each to
cover the cost of the building. We would have three dishes
and judge. Sharon Bruce volunteered to put a flyer together
and Panhandle will organize it. She will need to have prizes
and keep track of it. If you have ideas, please forward
them to her. Twin Rivers has been looking into ways of
making more money and we aren’t sure how long they
will continue to do this unless we are going to help them
out in any way we can.
Raenette
would like to give Mark Bogar; Rod & Karen
Parks’s recognition for their personal efforts and
would like to give them a gift. Everyone approved.
BCHI CONVENTION: Val Johnson reported that it will not
be at the Elks Lodge, it will be at the Salmon City Center
on Saturday, Nov 15th in Salmon, ID. It is their 30 year
anniversary. Salmon River BCH is the oldest Idaho chapter.
They will not sell raffle tickets. They may have a live
auction instead to earn money for their Chapter. The State
Directors meeting will be held Friday, November 14th in
the Lemhi Room of the Stagecoach Inn. There will be a photo
contest, but no categories. They would like to see each
chapter (look in your archives) come up with the best photo
you have had since inception. They can be framed or matted,
but please limit size to 8x10 or a 3-picture collage. If
you can provide a digital copy as well, that would be appreciated.
They
would like for each chapter to provide a picture and
bio of their special heroes (founders, charter members,
spark plugs, whatever) so we can give them special recognition.
In addition, they would like to do an “In Memoriam” section.
Deadline for these submissions needs to be 9/15/08. Email
to Val Johnson at valbjohnson@yahoo.com. These need to
be submitted in digital form, if possible.
They will not provide lunch at the State Directors meeting
on Friday nor during the convention on Saturday. Everyone
will be on their own.
They also want, from each chapter a two minute yarn of
a worst or best event, a highlight from the past, or whatever.
Raenette asked that as soon as they get their registration
form put together, it needs to be put on the website. We
need to get support from our chapters to attend and to
have all 15 chapters present. Remember, your chapter has
eight delegate votes.
BROOMTALES REPORT - Marilyn was not present to report.
If you want copies, please contact her. Robin Schindele
asked about getting a different printer and he feels we
could get a better deal and quality. Robin said he will
check around and get some quotes and report in November
on what he finds out.
FOUNDATION REPORT: Sharon Bruce reported that she learned
the Tax Identification number from the IRS was expired.
The same for the State of Idaho. She has been working on
this and has since gotten both reinstated.
BCHA
is now a 501(c)3 and they are looking to see if states
can umbrella under them. If Idaho does go under the umbrella,
contributions can be tax deductible. Val Johnson doesn’t
know if it can be done and a lot of the states are already
a 501(c)3, so it probably will not happen.
QUIET COMMOTION meeting was attended by Phil Ryan. It
is put on by the International Mountain Biking Association
(IMBA). The underlying feel he got was getting motorized
folks out of the forest. It appears more restrictions will
come in future for motorized vehicles. They were amazed
as to our volunteer hours and what we do in the back country.
Phil felt it was worth attending the meeting. It was education
for them also in that they had no idea that they are predators
to the horses. The FS and BLM were in attendance also.
There were about 150 in attendance from all over the country.
NATIONAL DIRECTORS REPORT: Val Johnson reported that they
brought on a Director of Development - Kande Hartel. The
solicitation letter she sent out was successful. 3% response
is what was received with contributions which helps pay
for her position. BCHA reported 5.3 million was contributed
by volunteer hours from the states. There is still a major
controversy regarding LNT. LNT is an organization - a patten
name (entity). Somehow they have taken over the LNT concept
and believe they are the only experts. Insurance is the
issue. NOLS wants a $3 million dollar insurance policy
for BCHA to insure NOLS to put on this program and it was
voted down. BCHA has a member that sits on their board.
NOLS signed a confidentiality statement and our board member
can not tell us what happened at the board meeting because
of it. The only thing Val sees we get out of this program
is we get a certificate stating you are a master trainer.
We have members that are strong believers of the LNT program.
BCHA
created a new executive committee. It is a sounding board
for the Chairman during the ensuing year to help
him in the decision making process. Steve Didier said the
FS is to use the El Dorado Forest Management (in CA) plan
as an example for all states. A huge problem with this
is not being able to camp one car length from the road.
Someone hauling a horse trailer can’t do it. The
FS is being sued right now over this management plan. Steve
also reported on the status of Trail Classifications that
a meeting will be held in the Clearwater National Forest
on Labor Day week with North Central hosting this meeting
with the FS. Wisconsin and Kentucky are now affiliates
and Alabama was brought in as a State organization.
PUBLIC LANDS REPORT - Bernie Lionberger was not present
to report.
TRAIL/RECREATIONAL COUNCIL - Mary Beth Conger has not been
to a meeting since 2006. The group knew we had representation
there when she attended. There was one issue, in particular,
that we were silent on and that was wilderness areas. They
want to open up wilderness areas to motorized vehicles.
It was presented in the paper that horse people were in
favor of that, but Mary Beth was not in attendance and
did not vote on that issue. It is important someone attends.
They meet three times a year, and are very informal. Robin
gets all of their emails. Their primary issue has been
to expand & fight the reduction of ORV traffic to see
that it is not being reduced. Val said BCH has a positive
image and credibility and we need to make sure it is not
being squandered. Terry Steiner was the Chair at that time
and he requested a retraction from the newspaper and REC
council. He said it was taken care of as soon as it was
done. Mary Beth will no longer be attending these meetings.
The meetings are in Boise and Phil will attend if it doesn’t
conflict with another meeting he would need to go to.
RAENETTE Didier gave a plaque to Robin Schindele in honor
of Dr. Sally Schindele for her contribution and dedication
to BCHI education.
SPORTSMAN CAUCUS - Sportsman Advisory Council will meet
again in September. Phil Ryan attended and felt our presence
was important to be there.
IDAHO
HORSE COUNCIL & IDAHO HORSE BOARD reported by
Barbara Z-Smith. The horse slaughter is still an issue
and not resolved. The Idaho Horse council is the one united
organization of any type of horse user. The group that
is not represented is the back yard horsemen. We BCH folks
should be reaching these folks and let them know this organization
exists. If they do away with the brand inspections, the
Horse Board will not function as they depend on this money.
The IHC voted yes to support the Horse Identification program.
The health benefits were the main reason they voted yes.
This is the chip program. Anita VanGrunsven of Heartland
BCH is opposed to it and gave her report. NAIS is the program
(National Animal Identification System). Western Horsemen
(June 2008 issue) has an article titled “Identity
Crisis” concerning this issue.
She said, if approved, every horse will have to be chipped.
The State of Idaho is asking for volunteers to do this
now. This is the first step of the program. We already
have ID and it is called a brand inspection. Idaho Horse
Council is one of the supporters of this program, as Barbara
stated they voted for. Anita proposes that BCHI should
insist that Idaho Horse Council withdraw its public support
of NAIS in Idaho (see copy of report attached). She feels
we should not have our name listed as a supporter of this
program. Anita would like for us to bring this back to
our chapters and report back in November. Raenette said
Heartland BCH needs to have this issue come back in a form
of a resolution. This will be brought forward to the delegation
and voted upon. Also, that we have attendance at the next
Idaho Horse Council meeting and bring this up. The Governor
of Idaho is endorsing this program. Anita just wants to
exclude horses from this program. The breeders and horse
racing industry support this program. Anita wants to see
it a voluntary program, not mandatory. Heartland BCH needs
to get this resolution to Raenette and Sherri one month
prior to the November meeting.
EDUCATION REPORT: Dale Schrempp reported that he will
work with Mary Beth Conger in getting material onto the
BCHI website. He discussed the Chainsaw and Crosscut Saw
Certification. The FS is working on getting this program
in unison nationwide, to have all agencies use the same
program.
MTDC has a questionnaire to be completed on the Chainsaw
Certification program.
DIRECTOR
ASSIGNMENTS FOR APRIL 2009 OUTDOOR SHOW: The slots need
filling are Logistics, Food Chair, Live auction,
Raffle Chair, Bucket Raffle, Photo contest, Decoration,
Chapter Display and BCH Booth. Karen Parks suggested we
go to Lewis & Clark College and they have a program
for Dutch oven cooking. Karen Parks will set up the catering
for dinner. (Robin will email the ticket format to Karen
and have Twin Rivers do them). Food will just be the continental
breakfast and set up for dinner. Raenette asked each chapter
what they will do and results are as follows:
Logistics: Twin Rivers
Food Chair: Priest River & Selkirk
Live Auction: North Central Idaho
State Raffle: (It was decided not to do one because of
the calendar sales)
Table Raffle: Salmon River, Squaw Butte, High Desert & Heartland
Photo Contest: Panhandle
Decorations: Treasure Valley
Chapter Display: Eagle Rock
Raenette will see to it that tasks are given to the chapters
not in attendance. Norm asked that these assignments be
sent out to the chapters again. Maybe include notes from
those who did it last year to help those doing it next
year.
Topics for Nov State Board of Directors meeting: We will
need the Resolution from Heartland. Each chapter needs
to have a two minute presentation of Worst or Best event
from the past. On the photo contest if you have a digital,
it needs to be done by 9/15/08 (we need clarification from
Salmon River if this is a contest or not.)
Idea for a speaker for Convention is to have the State
Brand Inspector there.
No need to bring the Chapter Display to the November meeting
due to the photo contest.
Kathy Kerley moved that we adjourn. Second by Robin Schindele
and carried.
Respectfully Submitted:
Sharon Bruce (Acting Secretary for Sherri Lionberger)
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